Neuer Yugioh Kinofilm!

Zitat von Sunaki-sama

Seltsam, man müsste meinen dass gerade die alten Charaktere mehr Interesse beim Publikum wecken würden.

Kahun aus dem NAC hat das Problem imo am besten beschrieben:

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15 years is more than enough to change a psychological landscape. A change in the psychological landscape alone is enough to make something like, say, Star Wars, not as appealing to people.

That was a legitimately real problem here in Korea with Episode 7, because Star Wars was never mainstream. There was no nostalgia, and as such one of the complaints about the movie was that it was too "childish" or whatever, while another complaint was that the movie was so caught up in being "Star Wars" that it was somewhat uncaring of newcomers to the franchise.

It was the 7th episode in a series with a minimum of 6 movies amounting to about 12 hours of runtime. Your average moviegoer isn't necessarily going to have the nostalgia needed to appreciate a 15 year-old or 30 year-old sequel, because surprise, not everybody was born the same year as you, or me, whoever. Furthermore, people usually don't want to put in extra work with having to understand a movie.

Don't get me wrong, the movie's probably going to be good for anybody who grew up with DM or the manga.

But the original started TWENTY years ago. DM started FIFTEEN years ago. And the anime is 225 episodes or so, or roughly about 4 and a half-years worth of animation when serialized, and a whopping SEVENTY FIVE HOURS worth of video footage, and that's assuming you cut the opening and ending from every single episode. That is THREE days of non-stop binge-watching without any sleep.

Even if you try to go with the manga, we're talking 22 volumes that cost 100 dollars to buy at minimum, in e-book form. Will your average person SERIOUSLY want to spend 100 dollars JUST to understand why the movie has meaning? 100 bucks can be spent in much wiser investments as far as actual needs or higher priority wants can go.

Most of the people watching this who are under 20 WEREN'T EVEN BORN when the manga started, and weren't even old enough to get what they were watching when DM first aired. Consider that for a moment. Unless they went out of their way specifically to understand something that wasn't part of their generational hype, they are NOT going to catch the context. And if you forcefully shove it down their throats of COURSE they aren't going to catch it.

And kids? Real KIDS who are like 10 or lower? Even moreso. Older people have time and resources and know where to look. Younger kids don't. We grew up with the show. We didn't have to go digging back a decade to understand it. We got a shitton of context without even trying. But there are now enthusiastic players and fans who never even experienced the first generation's hype or enthusiasm or card game landscape.

Those people, and people who didn't care much for YGO, are simply not going to get this movie unless they go through the extra work. That's the downfall of a sequel movie with an interconnected plot. And NOBODY wants to have something forcefully shoved down their throat. That's why we are probably going to have kids gong "eh, boring" at the movie. They simply do not care about something they're being forced to watch without any real context.

A kid might want to go watch it because it's hype, sure. But it's ludicrous to assume he's going to automatically appreciate it and be well versed in something that took most of us YEARS of natural exposure to fully grasp. And to that extent, no kid wants to get dragged to something that's completely foreign to him, so of COURSE he's likely to complain.

It's not that it's because they just watched the anime or prefer the game that they won't be able to appreciate the movie. It's simply because that somebody who we can define a KID, simply will not have grown up with the culture that we grew up with surrounding DM and the manga. Adults might have a yearning to go look for things from before their time, but for kids? It's something from before their time. It's not "their" culture.

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Hell, a guy who's 28 is in that range where he'd already have been 8 when the manga started, and 11 when the anime started. A guy like me? I was 3 when the thing started in Japan, and I didn't get into the game until 2002 when the starter deck hit the US. By that point I was already 9.

But what if you're 20 right now? You'd have been born the year the manga started. By the time you started getting into toy franchises like this, you'd probably have been at the end of DM's run. Any younger and "Your" contemporary YGO would've been GX at the earliest. Somebody who's a high schooler now would've probably started with 5d's or ZEXAL in all likeliness.

Not everybody in the fanbase remembers DM as the core of their childhood. And that means that while people might appreciate the history? They're not necessarily going to like it. It's why I said it's probably not going to be the fact that you grew up with the anime or the game or whatever that affects how you see the movie, but rather your grasp of the movie's context.

There are going to be niches where people aren't as interested in card games, niches where people just simply don't care about something that's not contemporary, etc. etc. Geeks aren't representative of the entirety of the mainstream, and even geeks are split up into different sects of society. And that only becomes more apparent the younger you are in a lot of cases.

I think a better reframing of what I'm saying would be something like uh. "Are kids interested in Yokai Watch, or Pokemon?" and whatnot. There's a unique kind of cultural lore engraved in YGO that might be a bit overbearing or alien for some who haven't grown up with it, and I'm thinking that for those who aren't as well versed in that lore, it's going to be harder to get into.

For those of us who are already immersed in the culture, it comes off as something natural. For us, the movie's probably going to be near perfect. But it might not be that way for other people who didn't grow up with it as a natural environment, and to those people the movie probably won't come off as good as they thought it would be, was my general point.

And it's not going to be as easy to get into for those people. Kind of like how somebody in our generation wouldn't be able to just randomly get into the original Mazinger Z or something based on it without having some sort of context or reimagining provided to us in a natural manner, no matter how much we go "BUT THERE'S ALL OF THESE RESOURCES" and whatnot.

WE know those resources exist because we've already seen them. People who haven't been exposed to them might not.

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Für "alte Hasen" war der Kinofilm, so weit ich das mit der Zusammenfassung im Internet beurteilen kann, hervorragend. Nur die neuere Generation kann dem wenig abgewinnen. Da hat auch die Remastered Version, die obendrein noch nicht abgeschlossen ist, nichts genützt.